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Un article très interessant pour comprendre les luttes d'influence au sein de la politique US, et mieux comprendre les décisions prises par les USA concernant le moyen Orient.

Bush’s Twenty-Billion Dollar Arms Sale to Saudi Arabia:

The Zionist Power Configuration Defeats Big Oil, the Military Industrial Complex, the White House and the Pentagon

By James Petras

12/01/07 "ICH" --- - The debate on which forces determine US Middle East policy has cut across the usual political spectrum: On one side most neo-conservative and progressive writers, academics and journalists argue that the military-industrial complex and Big Oil interests are the most influential forces shaping US policy. On the other, a small group of conservative and leftist writers and a few academics have identified what some call the Israel or Zionist Lobby and others refer to the Zionist Power Configuration (ZPC) as the prevailing influence in deciding US strategic policies in the Middle East.

While the debate rages over who and what interests got us into the Iraq war and the escalating confrontation with Iran, there is no better test of conflicting positions than the proposed US sale of $20 billion dollars of military equipment to Saudi Arabia.

The Pentagon led by Secretary of Defense Robert Gates agreed to the sale; it was backed by President Bush, Vice President Cheney and at least tacitly by the entire executive branch, including the National Security Council. All of the biggest US, European and Asian multi-national petroleum companies, refiners and importers were in favor of upgrading the military defensive capacity of the world’s biggest oil producer, since hundreds of billions in commercial and financial profits are transacted there every year. The US Middle East Command (CENTCOM) with major air bases and strategic logistic support systems in Saudi Arabia could not but support Saudi acquisition of a defensive high-tech air reconnaissance system.

Saudi Arabia is the most reliable and biggest single supplier of petroleum to the US world-wide. Saudi Arabia has been a staunch ally of the US – more like a client state -- in all the US military and surrogate wars and interventions from the co-financing of anti-Soviet Muslim fundamentalist in Afghanistan, the attack on Yugoslavia and support of break-away Bosnia and Kosovo, to the two Gulf Wars and present confrontation with Iran, to its opposition of each and every Arab nationalist or leftist regime over the past 60 years. From the perspective of US imperial interests, dominance and influence in Asia, the Balkans and especially the Middle East, one would thing that a military sale worth $20 billion dollars to the Saudi monarchy would be automatically and overwhelmingly approved by the US Congress.

This is especially the case because a $20 billion dollar sale will generate thousands of new jobs and will lessen the huge trade deficit. At the recent OPEC meeting, the Saudis strongly opposed dumping hundreds of billions of depreciating dollars they currently hold as foreign reserves – or even discussing the matter.

There is no greater contrast from the point of view of costs-benefit in comparing Saudi Arabia to Israel. The latter is subsidized by the US, which has given over $120 billion dollars over the last 30 years while it competes, as the second largest arms exporter, with the US-military industrial complex thus costing American jobs and supplies absolutely no strategic materials to the US economy. Indeed Israel has direct access to the most up-to-date US funded military technology, which it then sells to its clients. This is in stark contrast to Saudi Arabia’s servile relation with the US. Israel has constantly demanded and received US support and financing for its wars, its illegal colonization of Palestinian land and has unwavering US support for its repudiation of international law and numerous violations of United Nations mandates. While Saudi Arabia supports the US economy and is a strategic supplier of petroleum, Israel drains the US economy and secures its petroleum from it. Beginning in early 2007, the entire Zionist power configuration (ZPC) mobilized to block the US arms and military technology sales to Saudi Arabia. Zionist pressure was so intense and its control over Congress was so evident to the White House and Pentagon that Defense Secretary Gates did not even try to counter the ZPC’s campaign in the US Congress. Instead he went straight to the ZPC’s control center in Israel and not with empty hands. He pleaded with Israel to call of its American attack dogs in exchange for a ‘donation’ of over $30 billion dollars in US military handouts to Israel over the next ten years. Olmert accepted Gates offer: The US had paid the price but still the ZPC did not turn over their hostage Congress. President Bush and Secretary Gates were convinced that Israel would muzzle the Presidents of the Major American Jewish Organizations to allow the Saudi sale to go through. This did not happen. Why should it? President Bush could not withdraw the well-publicized pay-off to Israel; it was already in the legislative books. He could not retaliate – the ZPC-controlled Congress would oppose any and all counter measures.

So Bush and Gates went ahead and sent the bill to Congress authorizing the $20 billion sales to Saudi Arabia, a trillion dollar economy with a two-bit military wholly dependent on its US military protector.

Immediately the ZPC rounded up its automatic 190 members of the House of Representatives to sign a letter opposing the sale. The ZPC formulated the position embodied in the letter and oversaw its draft with the collaboration of its co-religionists in Congress. Zionist Congress members Shelley Berkeley and Anthony Weiner teamed up with Michael Ferguson. The Zion-Cons claimed justifiably that they could mobilize over three quarters of the Congress on any issue affecting Israel’s ‘security’. Zionist lawmakers claimed, “the sale would undermine Israel’s superiority in the region”. Every major independent military think tank would dispute this argument since Israel is the only nuclear power in the region, has the biggest and most technologically sophisticated air force and missile system, while Saudi Arabia and all the Gulf States have trouble even controlling local ground level bomb throwers.

There are two likely outcomes both demonstrating categorically that it is the ZPC that dictates US policies in the Middle East:

The military sales will not fly.

The military sale will be approved on conditions that Israel is privy to all its details and can modify or omit any part of the agreement.

The ZPC was even able to strong arm the Congress-people who have made a lifelong career out of aggressively promoting the interests of Big Oil (BO) and the Military Industrial Complex (MIC) to switch sides and vote against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia – BO’s strategic partner and the MIC’s best overseas customer. Congress members from BO states like Texas and states with large military industries like California endorsed the ZPC letter prejudicing their constituents and big campaign financers. The feeble ‘lobbying’ by BO and the MIC in favor of the White House were crushed by the ZPC Congressional juggernaut.

The major trade unions of the AFL-CIO, like the steel workers, machinists, oil and chemical workers, electrical workers – whose members’ jobs were at stake, did not protest, let alone challenge the ZPC, demonstrating the high degree of Zionist influence over the trade union bosses. The obvious point is that the Congress and the ZFL-CIO are both Zionist colonized institutions.

The issue is not whether the US should or should not sell arms to Saudi Arabia (I oppose all arms sales and the MIC and BO around the world). The fundamental issue is whether we, the citizens, the elected representatives and the trade unionists in the United States, can be free of foreign colonization to decide the issue. The issue is whether we are or can be a free and independent nation or a subject of a tiny powerful elite acting for a foreign power.

The narrative on the US proposed multi-billion dollar arms sales to a wealthy third rate military power demonstrates once again that Israeli interests have priority over US trade, jobs and geopolitical interests. Secondly the narrative confirms that the Israeli state dictates US political relations in the Middle East through its US conduit – the ZPC. Finally it refutes the Zionist geo-politicians and ‘oil’ and ‘military experts’ who cover up for the ZPC by falsely blaming Big Oil for policies they oppose because it prejudices their strategic partnership.

By blackmail and deceit, the Israelis got their additional $30 billion dollars over the next ten years and they double-crossed ‘their’ president by unleashing their Fifth Column to block his military sales to the Saudis. And if Bush dares a complaint, he will be added to the list of ‘anti-Semites’ – the only honorable list in his entire 8 years in office.
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"The Zionist Power Configuration Defeats Big Oil, the Military Industrial Complex, the White House and the Pentagon"

Ces propos ne me surprennent pas de la part du Tehran Times http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=158338. Tiens là dessus aussi tu pourras prendre des infos http://www.ahmadinejad.ir/fr/

Tu vas aussi nous sortir que le dossier du nucleaire iranien est clos j'imagine
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L'auteur est connu pour ses prises de position sur le sujet :

"D'après lui, la politique des Etats-Unis au Moyen-Orient ne correspond pas aux intérêts de ce pays, mais exclusivement à ceux de ces intérêts privés et de l'État d'Israël."

Selon moi cette vision est en partie vraie : c'est vrai que souvent les interets d'Israel ont primés, mais plus encore les interets des lobbies industriels US d'après moi.
C'est un mixe de tout ça, mais il est vrai que la dedans les interets des USA en tant que nation sont secondaires, ça semble évident.

Tout ça reste sujet à débat donc JBL si vous avez des contre exemples je suis tout oui ça sert à rien de sortir votre rengaine habituel sur le tehran times ou autre. Ce dernier dit d'ailleurs surement plus de vérités que Fox News, je serais pret à le parier.
Tout le monde le sait que la politique US au moyen orient est influencée par les lobbies sionistes, si vous ne le pensez pas et bien donnez vos arguments
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Tout le monde le sait que la politique US au moyen orient est influencée par les lobbies sionistes, si vous ne le pensez pas et bien donnez vos arguments

Que ce James Petras et autres qui partagent ces idees, gardent leur langue fourchue derriere leurs dents , je ne rentrerai pas dans ce type debat , et à propos je suis surpris que ce post . "ET SI LA CRÉATION DE L'ÉTAT D'ISRAËL AVAIT ÉTÉ UNE ERREUR ?" soit encore en ligne
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James B Lewis a écrit:
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Tout le monde le sait que la politique US au moyen orient est influencée par les lobbies sionistes, si vous ne le pensez pas et bien donnez vos arguments

Que ce James Petras et autres qui partagent ces idees, gardent leur langue fourchue derriere leurs dents , je ne rentrerai pas dans ce type debat , et à propos je suis surpris que ce post . "ET SI LA CRÉATION DE L'ÉTAT D'ISRAËL AVAIT ÉTÉ UNE ERREUR ?" soit encore en ligne

Ca te fais mal la liberté d'expression hein ? Et après ça vient nous foutre des slogans à 2 balles dans sa signature : "que règne la liberté" !! lol!
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La liberté d'expression ne te donne pas le droit d'inciter à la haine . Car c'est ce que tu fais en expliquant que les Americains sont exploités par les " lobbies sionistes " , et que ces memes Americains dans tes propos sont le mal incarné . Que va comprendre à ton avis le lecteur peu averti ?
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James B Lewis a écrit:
La liberté d'expression ne te donne pas le droit d'inciter à la haine . Car c'est ce que tu fais en expliquant que les Americains sont exploités par les " lobbies sionistes " , et que ces memes Americains dans tes propos sont le mal incarné . Que va comprendre à ton avis le lecteur peu averti ?

Il n'y a pas d'incitation à la haine : on décrit simplement une situation, qui, en plus est connue de quasiment tout le monde. Il est de notoriété publique que le congrès US, que le gouvernement US est influencé par des lobbies dont des lobbies sioniste, c'est pas un scoop.
Les Américains ne sont pas du tout le mal incarné (pas plus que les sionistes), je me borne a décrire les mécanismes et dénoncer les abus. Le peuple américain est d'ailleurs l'une des premières victimes des neo cons (qui eux par contre sont à mon sens dangereux avec leur idéologie). Maintenant que les interets US soient parfois désavantagés par des décisions influencées par les lobbies sionistes, ça reste sujet à discussion.
Mais on ne va pas polémiquer sur des faits établis, c'est ridicule.
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